, it's not true. virginia is a right to work state, finlands touted as being an excellent example of educational opportunity is pro union in a unionized education system. >> you don't think that the unions in this country are protecting incompetent teachers? >> i think when you really get to the issue what we're talking about is tenure and i do agree there needs to be some reforms in terms of the way that teachers are evaluated, in terms of getting their tenure and keeping their tenure. but principals are the once that decides on tenure and without tenure i wouldn't be sitting here today. it's a protection that's absolutely necessary so that teachers can join with parents and advocate with them for their children. >> what did you think about the message of the reason why kids are woefully underserved? >> well, i mean, i want to say that like you, i cried, it should not take a lottery for a child to receive a quality public education in one of the world's super power nations. >> what you're talking about, is there are these charter schools and parents and children are clamoring in
